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City Denies Redevelopment Proposal

The City Council said Tuesday that it would like The Vlass Group to submit a revised plan.

The Temple Terrace City Council has asked developers of the city’s to revise its plan for a residential piece of the property and bring it back when they are ready.

Acting as the before their regular meeting Tuesday, council members voted 4-1 to deny changes to the master development agreement that The Vlass Group was asking for. Councilwoman Mary Jane Neale cast the dissenting vote.

Councilman David Pogorilich said the crux of the issue was that the Temple Terrace Redevelopment Agency should not make decisions based on Vlass’ promises, such as to convert the first floor of apartments in two of the three housing buildings to retail once the market improves. He said the agency rather had to work with what they had on paper, which, in his opinion, significantly deviated from the concept plan that was created years ago.

“My recommendation would simply be to deny the application and allow them to bring back something that everyone in Temple Terrace and Vlass can live with,” Pogorilich said.

Pogorilich and council members Bob Boss, Alison Fernandez and Ron Govin agreed that accepting the plan Tuesday would have been too hasty a decision.

Boss said he had several issues with the plan and only had four days to consider it prior to the Tuesday meeting.

“We seem to be putting the cart before the horse,” he said.

Fernandez suggested Vlass and the city come together to host a public informational meeting to give citizens a better understanding of what can or can’t be built and why.

“People have just forgotten and it just needs to be pulled back up,” Fernandez said after the meeting.

City staff was unsure before the meeting if council members would make a decision on the plan or continue the public hearing until April 3. During the Redevelopment Agency meeting Tuesday, Mark Connolly, the city’s attorney, said he didn’t recommend that the agency continue the issue.

In a March 16 letter to the city, Atlanta attorney W. Daniel Hicks Jr. representing the Vlass group wrote that Inland Atlantic Development Corporation, the company that would build the residential component in question, would  if the council did not favor it at their Tuesday meeting. The Vlass Group would also reconsider its interest in the entire project, Hicks wrote.

Some residents who had seen the letter said they were upset that the developers were threatening the city.

Before the vote, resident Carl Cooper said the council’s obligation isn’t to Inland or Vlass, but rather the citizenry of Temple Terrace. He urged the council to deny the proposal but to work with developers to reach a compromise.

Others said they thought the council should approve the plan as presented Tuesday. Former City Councilman Ken Halloway said Vlass is the third developer to take on the project and the only one with the will to build the town center that residents wanted. He said the council’s decision was important.

“The future of this city depends on it,” he said. “This could be the night this city dies.”

In the end, Hicks withdrew Vlass’ proposal, and council members said they would continue to work with The Vlass Group toward a compromise.

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Lucinda Johnston March 21, 2012 at 04:44 pm
The citizens of Temple Terrace were treated like misbehaving children by the mayor and the developers. To try to force a decision that fundamentally changes the nature of the development with only four days to consider changes is asinine. We were told by the mayor that we were not citizens of Temple Terrace if we didn't support the changes! Spoken like a guy with a statue of himself erected by the developer!!
Quentin March 21, 2012 at 06:05 pm
HOORAH! finally something to be happy about. The bandits delivered an ultimatum and were rebuffed. Congratulations to those that stood up. The rest of you sheep need to look and get a backbone, that developer is not going to walk away from all that money no matter what. He just overvalued a statue He felt one statue would buy him all he needs. The builder has a good opportunity and he knows it if he won't build the building, someone will. Strong arming the city apparently was a miss step HA keep it up council. and others remember who tried to send you down the river and vote them out.
Lucinda Johnston March 21, 2012 at 07:24 pm
Four days to consider massive changes to an MDA? This was an easy decision. Kudos to the council members who had the guts to vote against strong arming our city.
MRD March 21, 2012 at 08:26 pm
Sorry folks, I disagree. What we have going on here is an attempt to bring a better quality of life to our area, and all we are getting is crap from the council AND the developer. The part built (SweetBay complex) is destined to be nothing more than a turd painted purple: still a turd. A $5 clothing store? Really? Is that the best this area can draw? No Starbucks..no Panera.. no brand name recognition, just another cheap cothing store that will bring a cheap clientel, plus another Martial Arts studio. IIf I was the developer, I am thinking this area can't draw the kind of business I need to make this work, so what the hey...I am gone. Then what, huh city council? Three more dollar stores, a pawn shop, and a cheap rug outlet? Yeah, but they will be in a nice building until it deteriorates for lack of maintenance. I am guessing three years, tops.
jbrown March 21, 2012 at 08:36 pm
Blackmail,Blackmail,Blackmail. Shame on you. Did they not have a contract. Is a mans word or a company word not good any more. Did they not have a bond of insurance. This project has been modified so much. As if this was not in the plans so long ago. If this goes anything goes. Its time a contract is a contract. This is a clear example nether the counsel ,or the company is responsible. The counsel has made to many concessions. The deal should be a deal. Let them walk,they have spoken what they are worth. When a company threatens to quit,they show what its worth is. Weaklings beware this shows something is going on behind our backs. Your insider with big EARS.
Cyndi Roberts Mohler March 22, 2012 at 12:03 am
Thank you to the City Council members who voted FOR the City of Temple Terrace and FOR the citizens of Temple Terrace. And now we know who WON'T be re-elected in November! I am certainly looking forward to change in November!!!
Ashley Reams (Editor) March 22, 2012 at 01:07 pm
Here's Joyce McKenzie's story in the Tampa Bay Times: http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/temple-terrace-city-council-denies-request-in-redevelopment-project/1221110.
Ashley Reams (Editor) March 22, 2012 at 01:09 pm
And Kenneth Knight's story from TBO.com: http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/mar/21/temple-terrace-downtown-project-hits-snag-ar-383426/.
jbrown March 22, 2012 at 07:33 pm
Enough is enough. The mayor,the developer,the council are inept. The current economic conditions did not develop over night. 50 percent of the mortgages in this county are upside down. The market will not be real till this is over. For the mayor,the developer,the Council should have seen this coming. This all started way before 2009. Give them a inch and they take a mile. Listen to the words on record,any investigator will tell you volumes this was in the works. They all should go . Wake up this is long past. The money owed could hardly be paid back. This project is under water. The end is in sight. Someone sooner or later should pay for this. They all are trying to procrastinate the end. Your insider BIG EARS.
Don Lack March 23, 2012 at 01:42 pm
Tear down the statue!
JS March 23, 2012 at 06:36 pm
Im not sure yet, but its not looking good. I should of known better, just plain stupid and I admit I may have been terribly wrong, but knowing there was really no stopping it, I started to support it. I was lured in by smiles and positive talk, even though I know in my heart of hearts government cant do a thing right.
I assumed that when the city council and the mayor put together a contract for a development approved by the citizens, that before the city simply hands over tens of millions of dollars in property, that there would be contractual obligations to fulfill the agreement AS SIGNED and penalty clauses for failure and/or breach. And jbrown is right on one thing, The city government dragged their feet on that mess at 56th for years. Decades actually, there was talk of it 20 years ago. While other cities simply condemned the nightmare and resold when the owners would not maintain it, they paid top dollar at the height of a real estate bubble that led to a second great depression. But then that is a lack of reflection of our code enforcement. Just look at the homes and businesses around you. And now we come to find out the Emperor has no clothes. Vlass can walk away scott free. Well, I assumed and made an ass out of myself. Now all we can do is cross our fingers and hope the CIty hasnt made an ass out of all of us.
Rollo Tomasi March 23, 2012 at 07:53 pm
Good for you JW, Welcome to the resistance, your sight has cleared and you now see the what some saw earlier. We grow each day and the axis powers who still plot to do us harm will not as easily pull their tricks without someone sounding the alarm.
Lucinda Johnston March 23, 2012 at 08:19 pm
But gentlemen, what is the answer to our big vacant lot with pretty trees and a statue? I'm seriously asking as I don't know what the next move should be. I just know more apartments don't seem like a smart move on so many levels.
Rollo Tomasi March 23, 2012 at 09:46 pm
Well you need businesses to come in, if they are not coming there is a reason. They know it's a huge dud. Sweet bay only brings in the trash that borders the city. I suspect most big companies know they would be just targets of shoplifts and other crimes if they took up space there. you need to clean out the apartments behind the complex. block of Riverhills on the west side of 56th st.. We're so screwed as far as what we paid versus what we are getting leave it as a park.
Temple Terrace resident March 26, 2012 at 02:01 pm
"you need to clean out the apartments behind the complex"
Ideas on how to do that? Important issue.
Lucinda Johnston March 26, 2012 at 04:10 pm
I guess the city could borrow some more money, buy the apartments and give them to Vlass. Then he could turn them into "luxury" apartments! of course I'm being sarcastic. However, someone approved the permits for those apartments and now look what we have to deal with years later.We need to learn from history and try not to repeat it. An area needs a balance of rental and owner occupied housing in order to maintain a healthy community. We already have way too many rental units in our city. We do not need more.
Lucinda Johnston March 26, 2012 at 04:15 pm
One of Vlass' arguments centered around the lack of financing available for retail. Maybe he should contact Mark Knapp who is building a beautiful complex on North 56th Street. Mark seems to be able to build in these challenging economic times. I for one would love to see Mark back on city council. Run, Mark, run!!!
Rick Bishop April 2, 2012 at 01:02 pm
The City needs to analyze, "What do we not have here that we drive to New Tampa, Brandon or S. Tampa for?". Then they need to contact those companies and offer aggressive incentives to get them to commit to our new development. It is difficult to predict what those businesses should be. For example, one suggestion would be a movie theater---we drive to Muvico in New Tampa or AMC in Brandon to see a movie. But are people going to continue to pay for first run movies, or is our culture changing away from that model? Starbucks is a bad suggestion when there already is one just past Fowler and 56th St. But this is the analysis that needs to be done to develop a rationale plan.
Rick Bishop April 2, 2012 at 01:11 pm
We can help them by using this thread to make suggestions on businesses that we would support with our business.
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